[-empyre-] Welcome to Week 2 on -empyre-: Boredom: Labor, Use and Time

Murat Nemet-Nejat muratnn at gmail.com
Sat May 16 08:32:48 AEST 2015


First, have a great trip. For how long?

Second a short comment:

"Empirically, mind wandering is tested by whether a person
*is not attending to something that are supposed to attend to* (like an
ongoing
task), or (if I recall properly) a lack of activity in areas of
executive function as shown in an fMRI."

As you I think you already acknowledged, do you see the extreme negative
bias against daydreaming, regarding it as lack (echoing weirdly/revealingly
Freud's definition of women's psychology as penis envy) that such a
definition contains?

Ciao,
Murat

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:40 PM, B. Bogart <ben at ekran.org> wrote:

> ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------
> Hello Murat,
>
> I just wanted to answer the following question as my last message before
> my trip:
>
> > If in the moment of daydreaming trajectory cannot exist, how can we say
> > possibly that an aware of daydreaming in the moment (therefore
> > predictability) possible?
>
> Is this the same as asking: How can we know we are daydreaming if the
> context of daydreaming is devoid of memory or self-awareness?
>
> Empirically, mind wandering is tested by whether a person is not
> attending to something that are supposed to attend to (like an ongoing
> task), or (if I recall properly) a lack of activity in areas of
> executive function as shown in an fMRI.
>
> I think pure mind wandering (the kind that is devoid of self-awareness
> and trajectory) is rare. I think we oscillate around a lot between
> task-positive and task-negative networks such that our awareness keeps
> modulating. I would say we become aware of ourselves not attending to
> the world and present in a context of memory, and then we don't; We
> experience varying degrees of context awareness, self-awareness, and
> external awareness.
>
> Ben
>
> PS: Thanks again all for the great discussions.
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