[-empyre-] empyre discussion

Murat Nemet-Nejat muratnn at gmail.com
Fri Nov 18 01:32:56 AEDT 2016


Johannes, interestingly my own post as the guest moderator has been going
back to me for my approval, but not the guest participants. I have tried to
check the approval file seven or eight times a day not to cause the kind of
delay you are referring to. If we assume a certain approval process is
necessary, then perhaps all the posts (including the moderator and guest
participants') should go for approval. This way they are released
simultaneously, provided the sequence of the submissions can be maintained.

On my part, the biggest problem is that my and the guest participants posts
were either not appearing on the list (as happened to Adeena Karasick's,
Jerome Sala's and I think mine, or others' posts did not appear in a
participant's e-mail. Karasick, for instance, remained out of the loop
basically for her entire week. It was disappointing for her and
embarrassing to me. I spent hours every Tuesday morning (beginning of the
week) and the next day trying to solve the problem.

Ciao,
Murat

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 4:55 AM, Johannes Birringer <
Johannes.Birringer at brunel.ac.uk> wrote:

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> Dear all
> Sorry to not contribute to content at the moment, but I have to echo
> Jonathan,
> I think the issue was reported to the list managers a while ago, I think
> it began about a year ago,
> that we no longer seem to have a functioning maillist of old but that
> messages don't show up in the
> body of the mails we receive from empyre (they are text- attachments, and
> it is too time consuming to
> go and open them up each time),  so I assume many have given up, as it is
> hard to follow a discussion that
> way;  my second observation over the years is that the flow of dialogue is
> not easily sustained when
> invited guests can post directly, while all others are blocked until their
> postings have been approved, which sometimes
> happens quickly, sometimes not, and then after a day or so the discussion
> (between guests) has moved on.
> That way, presumably, general  subscribers become less motivated to post
> anything?
> I remember asking for free/unmoderated access, as it is done on other
> listservs.
> Regards
> Johannes
>
>
>
> [Jonathan Marshall schreibt]
>
>
> For what its worth, I hardly ever respond to Empyre discussions because
> about half of the messages come through as attachments - which means I
> continually lose the content and context of discussions... I don't seem to
> be able to do anything about it.
>
> jon
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> From: empyre-bounces at lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au <empyre-bounces at lists.
> artdesign.unsw.edu.au> on behalf of Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 17 November 2016 9:03 AM
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I didn't receive anything about submitting; is it possible to send this
> out again or is it already closed? I think there are a lot of people on
> this list who would be interested.
>
> Thanks, Alan
>
> (Footnote - does anyone know why it's impossible to quote from a message
> sent out? are people using attachments? is there an issue with the
> software? I'm looking forward to a lively discussion, but technicalities
> seem to get in the way - for example, I just read a post from Murat, but it
> disappears when I try to quote parts of it. Thanks -)
>
>
>
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