[-empyre-] rehearsal of a network - [week 3]

annet dekker annet at aaaan.net
Wed Jun 20 06:58:07 AEST 2018

hi all,
thanks shu lea for inviting me to this inspiring discussion and sorry 
for the delay... i was/am trying to find the words to respond and still 
find it hard to insert them - i feel i have little to add to debates and 
discussion about dna, genetics, or mycelium for that matter, while i 
find them extremely urgent and fascinating, i'm still struggling with 
the challenges of 'human' networks.

so, for a short intro, in the last decade i've been increasingly busy 
with finding ways to preserve net art / net cultures, most of which can 
now be read in articles and a book 
one of the key possibilities i believe is in forming networks of [human 
and machinic] hardware and software, largely inspired by shu lea's 
notion of the cycle i'm interested in how networks form, break, disrupt 
or mutate. i'm trying to see how we can put these method into action in 
different fields and for other needs.

reading the essay linked by liz, after a discussion about the power of 
'songlines' and how the left find it hard to respond to the alt.right, 
i'm increasingly aware of the urgency to find and come up with 
alternative modes of organisation(s). this month's discussion comes in 
and out touching on these dilemmas in one way or another of course. i 
very much enjoyed the story of the kombucha, and how mycelium networks 
can help to think beyond the human=machine rethoric. and the project of 
a 'feral MBA' is a fantastic way to counter the current business and 

as mentioned i'm not too familiar with ins and outs of mycelium 
networks/infrastructures, so forgive my ignorance, but i would love to 
hear from others more about how these types of infrastructures could be 
'cycled' into other projects and made productive in other grounds. in 
other words, perhaps pragmatic, how to take into account the human 
scale(s), how to connect and, moreover, how to make sustainable these 
(post-net) networks?


Op 19-06-18 om 21:00 schreef Vanouse, Paul:
> ----------empyre- soft-skinned space----------------------
> Good afternoon everyone,
> I also thought this was an unexpected direction in this thread.  Of 
> course, the threadlike underground mycelium of many mushrooms is/are 
> known to grow in ways that seem non-formulaic, unstructured and 
> spontaneous. And this is the very property that gives rise to Delueze 
> and Guattari’s rich modeling of the rhizomatic underground network of 
> flows, deterritorializations, lines of flight… indeed probably the 
> very rich materialist models and metaphors that led many of us to the 
> interest in mycelium (it/them)sel(f/vs) in the first place.  So in 
> this sense, I suppose a flow into any unexpected direction shouldn’t 
> take us too much by surprise;-)
> My practice has generally undermined any strongly genetically 
> determinist basis of identity, such as the notion that we are defined 
> by our DNA, or represented by our DNA, or easily individuated by DNA 
> technologies. Furthermore, I’ve criticized the slippage between genes, 
> race and geographical place—in particular the idea of any fixity to 
> these relations.
> However, I engage this critique of identity of course from a 
> fascination with identity. My mother is a Jamaican of African descent, 
> from a country village near Brownstown, and much of her lineage isn’t 
> documented.  My father is white and was adopted with two 
> non-genetically related siblings into a French-Canadian/American 
> family in Minnesota.  Probably no mystery why I’ve been critical of 
> simplistic categories of race and identity.
> What I find particularly interesting about this thread in a mycelium 
> discussion tending toward DNA and genetics is that genetics are always 
> portrayed with an arboreal model, i.e. “the family tree”, “the family 
> tree of man”, etc.  Deleuze and Guattari found the teleology and 
> patterning of branching, as well as the forever hierarchic 
> relationship between branch and trunk as something to be resisted. 
>  The branching model fits an ontology of hierarchy, whereas the 
> rhizome model fits a philosophy of becoming.
> Where might the thread go from here?
> Cheers,
> Paul
>> On Jun 19, 2018, at 2:04 PM, lizvlx <liz at ubermorgen.com 
>> <mailto:liz at ubermorgen.com>> wrote:
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>> 🐑 🐑🐑🐑 
>> 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 hello 
>> again🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 four 
>> things🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 
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>> read this text and it is to be read:* 
>> https://eand.co/why-were-one-step-away-from-the-abyss-4ef01d70937b 🐑 
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>> - I am not adopted, the only great grandparent that is unknown in my 
>> family is the Roman Catholic priest that was my grandfather’s father 
>> :D .. But I have no known greek ancestry, neither northern African. I 
>> suspect that there might be a cluster of Sicilian DNA in upper 
>> Austria - but that is a work in progress theory, I still have a great 
>> aunt that is alive and I need to make her get tested to find out 
>> more. But thats more on a personal note.🐑 🐑🐑🐑 
>> 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑 🐑🐑🐑 
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>> - the *Datenschutzaspekt *(I rather use German when it comes to data 
>> protection as there is no powerful terminology in English) - the 
>> problem when signing up for a DNA analysis is a) trusting the company 
>> that they won’t fuck around with your data (and if you live in the 
>> USA you will be a fool to trust em) and b) you are making a decision 
>> not about your own DNA but for the whole of your close family. This 
>> is an impossible decision - me mistress of the impossible of course 
>> had no problem tackling this hurdle. Seriously, I would have never 
>> taken the test if I were living in the USA, too dangerous. I decided 
>> to do it as I do believe that future will be one where everybody’s 
>> DNA will be screened known bartered with etc. There is no way to stop 
>> this (the only good thing to get out of these tests is have a 
>> non-mutt person is the exemption of the rule and all this race 
>> bullshit just does not compute). 🐑 🐑🐑🐑 
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>> 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑*Heartless 
>> psychopaths.* What a lovely topic. For this topic, UBERMORGEN has 
>> been researching for the last year. We are calling it Binary 
>> Primitivism. We focused on analysing: *pornography* (also over time, 
>> trends, normalisation of criminal sexual abuse, hypnoporn) *incels* 
>> (thats the notorious Involuntary Celibates; we had done a piece on 
>> Elliot Rodger aka Santa Barbara Killer a little time ago and he is 
>> not the GOD of the movement, a movement that is terrorising online 
>> and RL communities) *Alt.right* (mostly their social media tactics of 
>> - again - immersiveness *Online Gaming Environments* (well u gotta 
>> play with em boys). Got some links hereto: 
>> https://player.vimeo.com/video/137939689 - video “Nice Vanilla 
>> Latte”, feat. Elliot Rodger, UBERMORGEN 2015 
>> https://twitter.com/ElliotRodgerGod - his twitter account that is 
>> still live and now used by a friend of his DO NOT REPORT THIS ACCOUNT 
>> COZ THIS A GREAT RESSOURCE http://vaporwave.breitbart.pro/ this is 
>> unreleased work in progress - one example of imagery etc we produce 
>> and then insert into the networks of the heartless psychopaths.🐑 
>> 🐑🐑🐑 
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