[-empyre-] [empyre] producers and consumers

[mary flanagan <mary@maryflanagan.com>]

Joseph -
thanks for your thoughts. I call my thoughts utopian because I 
simultaneously cannot help but see the "megalith of the consumption of 
popular culture" as a very very large obstacle towards true spontaneous 
and collective creative acts. As a committed teacher, I am a firm 
believer in personal creativity. However on occasion I have experienced 
art and media students, for example, turning in projects created by 
other artists or by Hollywood as their own -- not as plagiaristic 
solutions to the assignment, but because the commercial works "said what 
they wanted to say *for* them" and the students thought this was the 
same as personal creativity. (Believe me, this has resulted in many many 
long discussions!) In many circles, at least in the US, we've become a 
culture where years can pass by before someone might face the challenge 
of actually *making* anything - food, clothing, gift, etc etc.

But -- I'm optimistic and personally chipping away at this particular 
megalith. It would thrill me to no end to find out about and download 
music by Mrs. Ludmilla Borghese of Pavia, for example, instead of 
Madonna! But right now, for example, the top ten on filesharing systems 
focused on music tend to be the top ten on the charts, etc.

~ m a r y

> Today's Topics:
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>   1. the role of participants as *both* producers and consumers (Joseph Nechvatal)
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> From: "Joseph Nechvatal" <joseph_nechvatal@hotmail.com>
> To: empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 22:53:38 +0000
> Subject: [-empyre-] the role of participants as *both* producers and consumers
> Reply-To: empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
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> Dear Mary
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> When you say that "the role of participants as *both* producers and 
> consumers
> needs to be emphasized" I fully consent. This is very important. Yes, we 
> must look forward to the time when every user is also a server - a time when 
> the upload/download process is complimentary (at least between creative 
> people). This in no way seems utopian to me. Does it to you?
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> Please let me hear from you on this at your leisure.
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> Amitiés,
> Joseph Nechvatal
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> home page: http://www.nechvatal.net
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