[-empyre-] Re: empyre digest, Vol 1 #40 - 6 msgs

["Tim Jaeger" <tim_in_flux@hotmail.com>]

auriea:

> yes we must do those things of course of course but many of us
> must
> also learn C++, learn Flash, learn to think in digital media to
> get
> our ideas across. This requires on some level thinking about
> those
> tools , examining those tools, loving/hating those tools we
> don't get
> to take them for granted like we do with a pen.
> Software/Hardware
> comes and goes and so far as paradigm's go holding the pen and
> making
> a mark has no equivalent in terms of using Software. such is
> nature
> of computing there are many differnt pens and many different
> ways to
> hold them and many different marks one can make.

> This is because the code we use to make code is just as much the
> work
> of art as the art we are making. + The people programming the
> software do not know what we need, as artists, to make the
> things we
> are making .. we must let them know. This requires that we know.
> This
> requires that we tell them. This requires that we make a few
> demands
> perhaps. Is Macromedia listening? Most likely not. But there are
> others who do.


i'm not sure what the thinning the herd comments meant (nietzsche back from 
the grave or..?), but i would hope that you can do whatever you want to do! 
i don't want to feel pressured into learning the latest program or having 
the next killer app. you don't have to learn flash, or C++, or any of the 
latest programs to be making interesting, digital art, in fact you don't 
have to demand anything from macromedia...there are other possibilities like 
you said.

the prozac-as-network analogy was just to suggest that there are other ways 
to hard-wire immersive, baroque environments. the band Fischerspooner have 
some ideas on this as well! you can "be the network" and be offline. like le 
tigre says, "get off the internet!"

the interesting thing about the e8z site is that if i tell analog-style 
word-of-mouth to my friends that they're doing some interesting stuff, it 
picks up moreso than if i send out a mass email!

same thing w/ the (i think now defunct) pac-planet.net site, where Fri-Art 
turned a van into a dj-mobile and handed out food throughout the town. reach 
new people through your network or don't. be sovereign media in other ways. 
the internet is a paper tiger.

offline for a bit_
tim jaeger


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