Re: [-empyre-] matter and meaning

[Cristiano Bianchi <cristianobianchi@yahoo.com>]

Ciao Reiner,
than's very close to what I meant. The original
question that started my fury :-) was 'What does a
certain art expression mean?'. My point is that it
might 'mean' something but it's pointless to try
describing it using words. Try to describe your
feeling about the empty box (and BTW 'CONTENT' is yet
another thing from MEANING), and you come out with
something like 'the sound of silence', which apart
from the obvious nonsense, sounds, well, trivial,
banal, in the end quite silly. But the empty box has
mede an impression on you. Is it JUST 'the sound of
silence'? Any remore countryside does the same to me,
to an extent, the 'sound of silence'. But I wouldn't
say the the empty box and the countryside MEAN the
same.

The point here is rather retorical. As soon as you
question the meaning in art, I think you exist the
very realm of art itself. The best artist never TALK
about their work. The best among the best never
describe themselves as artists, just craftmen.

So I stay with it. It all MEANS nothing. Or if you
find a meaning, it is worthless.

Baci e abbracci,

Cristiano

 --- Reiner Strasser <reiner.s@netartefact.de> wrote:
> Hi Cristiano,
> 
> I seem to have a wider sense for meaning.
> Many artpieces do mean "something" for me even when
> I am not able to express
> this meaning in word in an adequate form.
> 
> NO MEANING - NO CONTENT messages are therefore
> somehow boring for me.
> 
> Why talking, communicating, creating when there is
> no meaning or content?
> 
> Even an empty box has content. ;) (in the sound of
> silence)
> 
> Tanti saluti
> 
> Reiner
> 
> 
> > And I can only answer with another question. What
> does
> > the Beeothoven 9th mean? What do Antonello da
> Messina
> > painting mean? What do Canova's statues mean?
> Meaning
> > (the one you can narrate in an email/text message)
> is
> > not the point. I do not have to tell you that art
> is a
> > synthesis of idea and form (this is elementary
> school
> > in my country). Separate the one from the other
> and
> > they both MEAN absolutely nothing. You cannot say
> that
> > Emily Dickinson talk about solitude. She does it
> in a
> > unique form. If I or you do it, it'll be different
> > (and can it possibly MEAN the same?)
> 
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