Re: [-empyre-] this is not a spectator event ::

[fizzion <fizzion@optusnet.com.au>]

Hi mez,
Carl Jung said something, about mysticism, I think it was 'you can't see the
schism for the mist'. I love concrete poetry too, freedom to say what you
like, how you like. Its just that sometimes issues get discussed on empyre
with dozens of difficult words when a few simpler ones would do, yeah right,
poetic liscence but who is the audience, one or two people maybe who get off
on the philosophical coloquialisms like I've got a Marx book too, isn't it
beautiful but I think Kropotkin is better. I'm not going to apologise for
being dumb and straight after all I got a masters in digital art last year
by doing an artwork in a design school, that was interesting let me tell
you. mez please allow me to apologize and could you give me an url where I
could see more of your work - I used to write code and I though it was
poetry when I did a good one. really. Barrie

> From: "][mez][" <netwurker@hotkey.net.au>
> Reply-To: soft_skinned_space <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:05:25 +1000
> To: soft_skinned_space <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [-empyre-] this is not a spectator event ::
> 
> At 10:08 AM 30/04/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>> I have to say sometimes that I find the language used by some on the list is
>> somewhat wanky and over verbose, less super-superlatives and hot air would
>> be good. I have avoided reading some posts because of this issue, I just
>> don't have the time to decipher what is being said. Maybe there should be a
>> prize for the most obtuse post?
> 
> .....its precis[ion]ely senti.men.ts like these that keep me chained +
> silent empyrically.
> 
> ][mez][
> 
> 
> 
>> Barrie
>> 
>> 
>>> --> also coming up in August or September (we are very flexible here
>>> at -empyre-) is audio.net, focusing on internet sound  with guests
>> including
>>> Trace Reddell, curator of sound-works for the Denver Museum of Contemporary
>>> Art, with John Hudak, John Kannenberg, Tobias van Veen and Glenn Bach.
>> 
>>> From: "-empyre-admin" <empyre-admin@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>>> Reply-To: soft_skinned_space <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>>> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:47:33 +1000
>>> To: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>>> Subject: [-empyre-] this is not a spectator event ::
>>> 
>>> -empyre- started about 18 months ago as a way for artists, writers and
>>> curators to discuss their work in an open forum and get critiques,
>>> suggestions, perhaps even unending praise -  in short, some responses on
>>> it.. sometimes that maybe be academicaly slanted..  sometimes technically
>>> slanted, sometimes aesthetically slanted..  it could even be humourous..
>>> 
>>> but in the last 6 months something wierd has been happening..
>>> the subscribership has doubled and the interaction has halved..
>>> 
>>> now i like the balance of that inverse proportional thing  as much as
>> anyone
>>> else....but i dont think the effect on the list is positive.. guests
>>> generously give of thier time  and really appreciate your reponses..
>> despite
>>> the facilitators getting mail from subscribers saying they really enjoyed
>>> this or that aspect of a discussion, or a guest posts, or thankyou for
>>> putting a particular topic on, the online public posts have dropped off.
>>> you all seem to have become a little shy in responding on list...
>>> 
>>> for the list to keep going -empyre- needs your interactions, as guests will
>>> not  give up their valuable time if they get no response to thie posts.
>>> noone gets paid to be here.. the facilitators wont keep putting in time and
>>> enregy to seek out guests if there is no dialogue happening.
>>> 
>>> Interaction is particlarly important in the next few months, especially
>> when
>>> a reader is being produced from the June discussion.  As it said in the
>>> inital statement you recieved when you joined -empyre- , it is an amorphous
>>> organic community, and as part of it you make it happen.
>>> the vitality and sustainability of the list is up to =you=
>>> 
>>> -empyre- faciliatators
>>> Christina | Melinda | Michael
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