RE: [-empyre-] Designing Contexts/Social space, art practice, network structure

[mz wierDOS <netwurker@hotkey.net.au>]

hi again charlotte + other m.pyrians.

At 11:30 PM 29/08/2004, you wrote:
> And picking up on some of Kathy's points, I wonder if the meaning, is
> 'off-list'? I don't mean this in an entirely defeatist sense, but many of
> the best responses I have received during my stint on Empyre have been
> off-list.

i don't think this is isolated 2 ur own [individuated] experience charlotte 
+ i don't think that its a defeatist response at all....purr.sonally i 
would hesitate 2 rank/measure response loadings via a potentially 
polarising assessment [ie best-worst] but thats just me....i do agree with 
the idea that the "correspondance-behind-the-mailing-list-board" is as 
equally as m.portant as the actuated responses onlist.

> Kathy has expressed a dislike for personal conversations that take up
> valuable list space, which I understand, but what might go unacknowledged is
> that when these conversations do continue, albeit off-list, they can be
> greatly beneficial.

i find kathys viewpoint highly problematic, in that it tends 2 view the 
"LIST" [as she puts it, in caps, perhaps 2 indicate some type of hi-low 
distinction? kathy, thoughts on this?] in a somewot x.clusivist 
lite.......that "true" [or valuable] list interactions r those designated 
public fodder, that r streamlined in terms of content optimised 4 public 
scrutiny or based on a isolated thematic that [obviously] fits with each 
monthly topic base...

.....having trawled thru [and muddied about in] many + various list forums 
in varying capacities i have formed a very different view of successful [+ 
hence, manageable + adaptable/changeable  + growth oriented as opposed 2 
print-based//dialogically emulating] email lists.....

my POV :
- celebrates the cross-ova of identity voicings onlist[s].
- seeks 2 n.courage a dynamic that accounts 4 all lvls + stratifications of 
interactional directions + manifestations.
- conceptualises successful, open, thriving lists as opposed 2 mandating 
mono-directional, closed-topic-response-based communication stylistics.
- worries ova the need 2 lock-down posts in2 stratified, rigid medi[a]ums 
that must be tamed/groomed/directed along a theoretical+regulated 
discussion+dialogically-slick axis.
- is puzzled by cost-benefit analyses/approaches/stratagems in relation 2 
forums that could encourage holistic, open-ended, multifarious interchanges 
that blast apart notions such as "public" + "private".

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