[-empyre-] meat and potatoes space




On Nov 29, 2005, at 7:00 PM, marc wrote:

I would imagine that we could collectively imagine that there is a hybrid practices between the web and the "meat-world" (great term). And that we could collectively allow for a functionality on both extremes...

i think Robby's post is meant to be a bit (or more) provocative here (of course, i've been known to be wrong!). and his crit of tech lines up with some of the other concerns about the false promises of IT to deliver democracy, so it's not without some sound foundation. Read Hakim Bey (aka Peter Lamborn Wilson) lately?
Trebor text posted earlier i think also asks some great questions that had a couple people on his New Media Education challenging the effectiveness of IT for the purposes of the left.
http://mailman.thing.net/pipermail/idc/2005-November/000089.html
Anyway, i think the whole dichotomy thing IT/anti-IT is kind of a distraction and a bit of a red herring... were people arguing over whether or not the printing press was going to change the world for the better, lift up the oppressed, just by being produced?
it did no doubt change the world, but it certainly didn't eliminate oppression, as our reality testifies to.
great posts.
ryan





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