[-empyre-] On Gamer Theory

[Eduardo Molinari]

very good questions Brian!
I have the same doubts.
Please Aliette, can you say something more?
e.


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--- El vie 9-may-08, brian whitener <iwaslike at hotmail.com> escribió:

> De: brian whitener <iwaslike at hotmail.com>
> Asunto: RE: [-empyre-] On Gamer Theory
> Para: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Fecha: viernes, 9 de mayo de 2008, 2:01 pm
> Hi aliette,
> 
> thanks for your post. i just wanted to ask three follow up
> questions about ti. in what way woud you call wark's
> work "post political"?
> 
> what is atopia (for you, or for wark)?
> 
> how does the "The question
> > is that one of otherness beyond the rule" tie
> into this idea of atopia?
> 
> best,
> brian
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:00:42 +0200
> > From: aliette at criticalsecret.org
> > To: empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > CC: 
> > Subject: [-empyre-] On Gamer Theory
> > 
> > Hi Empyreans,
> > 
> > By reading a few points of Brian'essay and the
> interest it meets in
> > Spanish language in the thread, it appears that we
> have miss a
> > reference such as Ken McKenzie Wark's Gamer
> Theory. Specially the
> > chapter named "Atopia" (which is not my
> proper idea of how to be in
> > atopia in a post political word but very interesting
> as theorist
> > concept of comportmental transgression of the bare
> life as well the
> > social strategies in the post industrial world). it is
> the proper
> > question of the culture nowadays. That is a way of the
> culture --even
> > not folk.
> > 
> > Item 124 "In games (...)"
> > 
> > What results immediatly at my view is that a game is a
> project in real
> > time integrating several times, it is not a
> transgressing project in
> > the inheritated sense from utopia --that comes at the
> future. It is
> > the very question of the issue of the game immediatly
> with all the
> > knowledge of the game and of its story, that is no
> more the
> > dialectical question as it can be of War at Clausewitz
> which supposes
> > a political interest to make the war. But may be the
> concept of
> > "double mass" (may be just economic) as
> situation of the war at
> > Canetti's Crowds and Power can stay currently
> lightening in the
> > situation of several countries in South America, and
> more between
> > South America and the USA and between the USA and the
> rest of the
> > world --included its allied "variety".
> > 
> > >From Gamer Theory that is exactly the question of
> surviving in bare
> > life as emergent bare situation in the vectoral
> post-liberal world,
> > but inheritated culture (rule, education, comportments
> to safe oneself
> > toward and after the value) wherever can be the site
> (I mean whatever
> > it would be or not be of the back level of
> industrialization and  of
> > culture of the production).
> > 
> > Something not universal --the actual question being
> the local question
> > --but something mathematic depending of the
> disposition of the game
> > cannot be solved or following an abstract rule of
> mathematic
> > plasticity of the chaos as condition of the game.
> Which paradigm after
> > alll? Very simply Statistics?
> > 
> > The question is not more of the value as line of
> project. The question
> > is that one of otherness beyond the rule.
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