[-empyre-] On Gamer Theory

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--- El vie 9-may-08, Nicholas Ruiz III <editor at intertheory.org> escribió:

> De: Nicholas Ruiz III <editor at intertheory.org>
> Asunto: RE: [-empyre-] On Gamer Theory
> Para: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> Fecha: viernes, 9 de mayo de 2008, 2:11 pm
> For those that are unfamiliar with this text, here is
> a link:
> 
> http://www.futureofthebook.org/mckenziewark/gamertheory/?cat=5&paged=1
> 
> NRIII
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- brian whitener <iwaslike at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi aliette,
> > 
> > thanks for your post. i just wanted to ask three
> > follow up questions about ti. in what way woud you
> > call wark's work "post political"?
> > 
> > what is atopia (for you, or for wark)?
> > 
> > how does the "The question
> > > is that one of otherness beyond the rule"
> tie into
> > this idea of atopia?
> > 
> > best,
> > brian
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------
> > > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 12:00:42 +0200
> > > From: aliette at criticalsecret.org
> > > To: empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > > CC: 
> > > Subject: [-empyre-] On Gamer Theory
> > > 
> > > Hi Empyreans,
> > > 
> > > By reading a few points of Brian'essay and
> the
> > interest it meets in
> > > Spanish language in the thread, it appears that
> we
> > have miss a
> > > reference such as Ken McKenzie Wark's Gamer
> > Theory. Specially the
> > > chapter named "Atopia" (which is not my
> proper
> > idea of how to be in
> > > atopia in a post political word but very
> > interesting as theorist
> > > concept of comportmental transgression of the
> bare
> > life as well the
> > > social strategies in the post industrial world).
> > it is the proper
> > > question of the culture nowadays. That is a way
> of
> > the culture --even
> > > not folk.
> > > 
> > > Item 124 "In games (...)"
> > > 
> > > What results immediatly at my view is that a game
> > is a project in real
> > > time integrating several times, it is not a
> > transgressing project in
> > > the inheritated sense from utopia --that comes at
> > the future. It is
> > > the very question of the issue of the game
> > immediatly with all the
> > > knowledge of the game and of its story, that is
> no
> > more the
> > > dialectical question as it can be of War at
> > Clausewitz which supposes
> > > a political interest to make the war. But may be
> > the concept of
> > > "double mass" (may be just economic) as
> situation
> > of the war at
> > > Canetti's Crowds and Power can stay currently
> > lightening in the
> > > situation of several countries in South America,
> > and more between
> > > South America and the USA and between the USA and
> > the rest of the
> > > world --included its allied "variety".
> > > 
> > > >From Gamer Theory that is exactly the
> question of
> > surviving in bare
> > > life as emergent bare situation in the vectoral
> > post-liberal world,
> > > but inheritated culture (rule, education,
> > comportments to safe oneself
> > > toward and after the value) wherever can be the
> > site (I mean whatever
> > > it would be or not be of the back level of
> > industrialization and  of
> > > culture of the production).
> > > 
> > > Something not universal --the actual question
> > being the local question
> > > --but something mathematic depending of the
> > disposition of the game
> > > cannot be solved or following an abstract rule of
> > mathematic
> > > plasticity of the chaos as condition of the game.
> > Which paradigm after
> > > alll? Very simply Statistics?
> > > 
> > > The question is not more of the value as line of
> > project. The question
> > > is that one of otherness beyond the rule.
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> > 
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