[-empyre-] Nothingness

Anna Munster A.Munster at unsw.edu.au
Thu Apr 30 12:00:52 EST 2009


Hi Michael,
Sometimes when I sit on a beach and stare at turquoise water I am  
almost tempted to fall into a Kantian sublime! But then I notice the  
ripples, the harmonics of waves get heard and...luckily I do not fall  
into the sublime abyss but get washed up on the shores of the  
baroque :-) ;-)

For me, the sublime would be fine without the Kant. In Kant the  
sublime becomes total such that one fails to notice the micro- 
sensations (the nonrepresentatble) out of which feelings draw their  
force. Additionally, and as you indicate by placing Kant alongside  
Sartre, these sublimes tend toward negation (again totalising)...

Nonrepresentable effects of practices have, I think, more to do with  
immanence than either dialectics or ontology (although Adorno's  
negative dialectics poses an interesting departure).
But there's some interesting work being done on Kant at the moment  
that connects him to a genealogy of immanent thought (see Steve  
Schaviro's new book Without Criteria, http://mitpress.mit.edu/catalog/item/default.asp?ttype=2&tid=11761

cheers
Anna
On 30/04/2009, at 9:15 AM, Michael Angelo Tata, PhD wrote:

> Anna--
>
> My only other question for you would be the Kantian sublime, which  
> involves the failure of presentification and the correspondent  
> sacrifice of the imagination in the face of what can neither be  
> mathematically nor dynamically represented: this to me seems close  
> to your non-ontology.  Sartres "negatites" also come to mind, those  
> mini zero ontologies perforating existence and reminding l'etrte  
> that technically, it is neant.  Each idea carries signifcant impact  
> for aesthetic production, non-production and contemplation, and  
> seems to spesk for and to the kinds of praxis you are advocating.   
> Best, MA
>
>
> *******************************************
> Michael Angelo Tata, PhD  347.776.1931-USA
> http://www.MichaelAngeloTata.com/
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> > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:58:19 +0100
> > From: sdv at krokodile.co.uk
> > To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Tacticality: 4 Anna
> >
> > or possibly merely thinking she knows what is scary and stupid..
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Angelo Tata, PhD wrote:
> > > Or maybe what Anna is calling for is not strategy, which is  
> primarily
> > > totalizaing and singular, but tactics, which are fragmented,  
> dspersed,
> > > plural and framed in the absence of the God's-eye-view perspective
> > > without which there are no totals, only partial sums? I am  
> thinking
> > > again of Michel de Certeau.
> > >
> > > *******************************************
> > > *Michael Angelo Tata, PhD 347.776.1931-USA*
> > > *http://www.MichaelAngeloTata.com/* <http://www.michaelangelotata.com/ 
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >  
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> > > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:09:05 -0700
> > > From: editor at intertheory.org
> > > To: empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> > > Subject: Re: [-empyre-] Artists' responses to the so-called  
> "crisis"
> > >
> > > dear anna...interesting comments, though I wonder if your
> > > representation of the non-representable is not a bit too  
> theological
> > > for my taste? And transformation is such a magical enterprise...
> > > alchemically speaking, I do not suspect that attribution of a  
> quality
> > > such as 'non-representabililty' adds or subtracts to the strategic
> > > authenticity or legitimacy of politics, responses or art, for that
> > > matter. Strategies, in other words, are always fatal...to their
> > > object, or to themselves. We all try to catch the falling the  
> knife
> > > with each attempt at becoming, no?
> > >
> > > Nicholas Ruiz III, Ph.D
> > > Editor, Kritikos
> > > http://intertheory.org <http://intertheory.org/>
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > *From:* Anna Munster <A.Munster at unsw.edu.au>
> > > *To:* soft_skinned_space <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 25, 2009 3:48:56 AM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [-empyre-] Artists' responses to the so-called  
> "crisis"
> > >
> > > Sorry Nikos but as to your rhetorical 'no' below, I resoundingly  
> reply
> > > NO WAY!!. There is a world of difference between responding  
> (rather
> > > than reacting which is really what Joseph is talking about) to a
> > > social, economic and political crisis using aesthetic strategies  
> and
> > > techniques vs. the 'arts' of finance, government or whatever other
> > > institution you want to aestheticise.
> > > (a la Benjamin et al).
> > >
> > > The examples that Nik and Marc are talking about (and also what  
> Brian
> > > Holmes has been involved with) are emphatically not abut knee jerk
> > > response or reaction but are about using nonrepresentational  
> aesthetic
> > > strategies - among a multitude of strategies which also include
> > > activist, semiotic, political, social and affective ones – to
> > > /transform/ subjective and collective situations. These are  
> immanent,
> > > critical, positive and productive relationships with crisis ie  
> they do
> > > not respond /to / crisis but rather work amid, through and via  
> crisis
> > > to work with what might be transformative about crises. And these
> > > aesthetic strategies are absolutely everywhere both in and out  
> of the
> > > 'art world' eg Critical Art Ensemble, Harwood and Mongrel, 
> 16Beaver,
> > > rebublicart project, The Senselab, eipcp, Make World, edu  
> factory, The
> > > Thing, Serial Space (sydney -based for all you North Americans who
> > > need to get out more ;-) etc etc etc. And these are just the
> > > artists/collectives/projects - there's also a wealth of  
> brilliant art
> > > theory around this - try Hito Steyerl, Gerald Raunig, Brian  
> Holmes,
> > > Matthew Fuller, Florian Schneider, Brian Massumi all the FLOSS 
> +art etc
> > > etc etc
> > >
> > > There is NO relation between these kind of politics, responses and
> > > aesthetics and the 'art' of finance - except a relation of  
> revulsion.
> > > On the other hand, if you want to find out about a really  
> fantastic
> > > installation that engaged directly with the stock market and in  
> fact
> > > used a gambling syndicate's money to trade stocks as part of the
> > > actual art work - have a look at Micheal Goldberg's  
> documentation of
> > > his 2002 work 'Catch a Falling Knife'
> > > (http://www.michael-goldberg.com/main.html - go into Projects and
> > > select the title of the piece).
> > >
> > > Just another point I'd like to make about this month's  
> discussion - I
> > > have found some of the posts scary and stupid in their absolute  
> lack
> > > of knowledge about anything that is going on about contemporary  
> art,
> > > aesthetic strategies and politics. I really think some people  
> need to
> > > do a bit of preliminary research and investigation before they  
> start
> > > sounding off about how boring or naive the concept of  
> aesthetically
> > > responding to crisis is,
> > >
> > > Best Anna
> > >
> > > On 24/04/2009, at 10:36 PM, Nicholas Ruiz III wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > nk...another aspect of interest is the way in which the financial
> > > realm in itself is a creative act, and artful...with all of the
> > > discussion revolving around the perception/reading parallax, I
> > > wonder how people in the artistic/academic community may not
> > > perceive/read financial creativity as art at all...I suspect such
> > > financial activity is a form of art, which contains all of the
> > > aspirations, triumphs and failures that any art project may
> > > enable, no?
> > >
> > > nikos
> > >
> > > Nicholas Ruiz III, Ph.D
> > > Editor, Kritikos
> > > http://intertheory.org <http://intertheory.org/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: nick knouf <nak44 at cornell.edu>
> > > To: -empyre- <empyre at gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 1:07:11 PM
> > > Subject: [-empyre-] Artists' responses to the so-called "crisis"
> > >
> > > Dear empyre,
> > >
> > > It's strange that it's the 16th of the month (at least where I
> > > am), yet
> > > there has been little sustained discussion of present-day artistic
> > > responses to this so-called financial "crisis"--one that exists  
> in a
> > > mythical realm of numbers-that-we-cannot-perceive, but that  
> sadly has
> > > very real impacts on people. Responses by students, academics, and
> > > activists have not been limited to the resignation of  
> acceptance, nor
> > > abstract theorizing in and of itself, but rather have taken, at  
> times,
> > > forms of protest and occupation throughout the world, as well as
> > > direct
> > > actions against banking institutions. (See, in particular the
> > > story of
> > > Enric Duran:
> > > http://news.infoshop.org/article.php?story=20090319182858556 and
> > > http://17-s.info/en .) How then might we understand these actions
> > > within the context of our own theorizing activities?
> > >
> > > This should reflect a special concern as to the impact of this
> > > "crisis"
> > > on academic and cultural institutions. Indeed, the occupations and
> > > protests at schools---NYU, the New School, University of  
> Rochester,
> > > institutions in Italy and France and Spain and...---suggest the  
> deep
> > > worry that many have regarding how the "crisis" might ultimately
> > > move to
> > > transform culture and learning into more and more reified  
> situations
> > > governed by numbers and the market. (The Bologna process is  
> coming to
> > > the states: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/education/09educ.html 
>  .)
> > > In response there have been discussions and interviews about how
> > > we can
> > > use this time of "crisis" to develop new models that exist in  
> parallel
> > > to concurrent struggles to force governments to provide for the  
> basic
> > > needs of people. (See in particular "Interviewing the Crisis":
> > > http://www.interviewingthecrisis.org/ .) How might we then  
> reconsider
> > > actions and activities of the past and present and future---TAZs,
> > > tactical media, pirate radio, and many, many, more---in light of  
> calls
> > > for more standardization and more "accountability"?
> > >
> > > And whither the academic institution? Corporations have fairly  
> free
> > > reign in many departments at colleges and universities in the  
> United
> > > States. Are we to expect even more of these so-called "public- 
> private
> > > partnerships" in the future? What is the role of the institution  
> in
> > > producing the people who created the "crisis" in the first  
> place? Who
> > > will follow the links between the powerful actors in order to map
> > > their
> > > impact?
> > >
> > > I present here a recent project of mine that is my own attempt  
> to face
> > > some of these issues. MAICgregator (http://maicgregator.org
> > > <http://maicgregator.org/>) is a
> > > Firefox extension that aggregates information about colleges and
> > > universities embedded in the military-academic-industrial (MAIC)
> > > complex. It searches government funding databases, private news
> > > sources,
> > > private press releases, and public information about trustees to
> > > try and
> > > produce a radical cartography of the modern university via the
> > > replacement or overlay of this information on academic websites.
> > > MAICgregator is available for download right now:
> > > http://maicgregator.org/download . If you want to see what
> > > MAICgregator
> > > does to a website without downloading it, you can look at some
> > > screenshots: http://maicgregator.org/docs/screenshots . This is  
> its
> > > first public release, so expect that things might not work  
> properly.
> > >
> > > I have written an extensive statement about MAICgregator that  
> tries to
> > > contextualize it within discourses of net.art, the
> > > military-academic-industrial complex, "data mining", and activist
> > > artistic practices. As the statement is rife with embedded links,
> > > please read it online:
> > >
> > > http://maicgregator.org/statement
> > >
> > > I welcome any feedback or discussion that this might provoke; if  
> you
> > > want to e-mail the project authors directly, please e-mail info  
> --at--
> > > maicgregator ---dot--- org.
> > >
> > > http://maicgregator.org/
> > >
> > > nick knouf
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> > > A/Prof. Anna Munster
> > > Assistant Dean, Grant Support
> > > Acting Director Centre for Contemporary Art and Politics
> > > School of Art History and Art Education
> > > College of Fine Arts
> > > UNSW
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Assistant Dean, Grant Support
Acting Director Centre for Contemporary Art and Politics
School of Art History and Art Education
College of Fine Arts
UNSW
P.O. Box 259
Paddington
NSW 2021
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