[-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

[Eugenio Tisselli]

Hi Raul,

Great to see you here!

Indeed, you are right when you point towards a tendency to focus only on the visual, and diminish the importance of other senses. While it is true that we increasingly absorb the world through a screen, we can't reduce the multiple, complex nature of our experience to only the "eye-mind" connection. In fact, recent trends of research in AI see embodied cognition as the key to better understand how we (the whole of our bodies) interact with the world.

Saludos.

Eugenio Tisselli Vélez

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--- El jue, 7/8/10, Krosrods Moarquech <moarquech at yahoo.com.mx> escribió:

De: Krosrods Moarquech <moarquech at yahoo.com.mx>
Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology
A: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
Fecha: jueves, 8 de julio de 2010, 05:21 pm

Eugenio,

I would to expend on your words: "I don't believe that creativity needs to be associated only with an 
artistic context."

There too many who only associate creative with art, and most of them with object based art.

It is diffcult for others who have understood that creativity is at full in all aspects of nature, to discuss how creative impact humans since most of these discussions about creativity are related to the ideology of the visual.

We can not separte us from nature since our senses are the interfaces with the outer world and the inital process of what will become our creative expressions. Unfortunately, must people, even some who called themsel intellectuals, do no discuss the importance of all senses and always favor the visual apparatus.

If we become aware of the placement of the senses and the way in which they articulate a geometrical mechanism of perception in all humans, then, the discussion about the creative could take us to a better understanding of how social and personal networks work. The whellchair people
 involved in the Barcelona project have understood that process.

Saludos and great to encounter your wise ideas in this network,
raul morquech ferrera-balanquet


--- El jue 8-jul-10, Eugenio Tisselli <cubo23 at yahoo.com> escribió:

De: Eugenio Tisselli <cubo23 at yahoo.com>
Asunto: Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology
A: "soft_skinned_space" <empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
Fecha: jueves, 8 de julio de 2010, 4:51

Johannes,

> why are social networks, or facebooks or twitters
> considered community building in a creative/artistic sense,
> after babel or not?  is the creative here always
> associated with the artistic, and then what "artistic"
> terms are meant? 

I don't think we can consider all kinds of social
 networks as being community builders. There are many different kinds of networks. The very traits (even technical specifications) of these networks create basic conditions which favor (or inhibit) the creation of a community. I think Davin put it right when he talked about desires and the necessity of conflict in order to characterize a community: it's not simply a group of people gathered together in a physical or virtual space. 

I don't believe that creativity needs to be associated only with an artistic context. The fact that a community needs to constantly re-produce itself, and that this re-production can be done in creative ways, lets us think about social creativity as something happening in broader scopes: politics, economy, education, urbanism ... in any case, I think that an artistic environment is much better prepared to embrace creativity than others.

In megafone.net, most projects have been sponsored by artistic institutions
 and shown at arts festivals. Yet the projects themselves have had all kinds of implications. For example, in Barcelona, 2006, a group of people on wheelchairs created a map of the inaccessible spots that they found in the city by using mobile phones and GPS modules. The map was printed and handed to the authorities, which responded with a map of the accessible places a few weeks later. The participants also created a cultural association which is still active organizing all sorts of events and workshops for disabled people. You can see the project here:

http://www.megafone.net/BARCELONA/

And a video: http://www.megafone.net/INFO/index.php?/video/2006-barcelonaaccessible/ (with subtitles in English)






> 
> Simon quoting Kevin
> >
 
> >> So how do we attend to creativity's ontology as a
> condition of being social,
> >> without ending up with just another form of
> instrumentalized "freedom?"
> 
> 
> indeed. 
> 
> 
> with regards
> 
> Johannes Birringer
> Interaktionslabor
> http://interaktionslabor.de
> 
> 
> Simon quoting Kevin
> > 
> >> So how do we attend to creativity's ontology as a
> condition of being social,
> >> without ending up with just another form of
> instrumentalized "freedom?"
> 
> 
> >Taking this idea of individual sublimation and
> considering how this dynamic
> might work in heterogeneous social contexts between people
> we can ask how we
> learn to use our languages, our means of expression,
 across
> human languages,
> media forms, scripts and materialities, and learn to be
> ourselves
> (pluriliteracy as an ontology)? Perhaps the manner in which
> we sublimate
> difference is as much about fear as desire?
> 
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