[-empyre-] seeing yourself a prototype - the limits of open source

[Renate Ferro]

Yes of course,  I believe it is a collaboration as I said.  Are there not
many collaborators, Lynn?

> Actually the Art Colider is a joint project with the San Francisco
> Art Institute begun nearly 2 years ago.
>
> http://theartcollider.org/
>
> l
> On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Renate Ferro wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Cynthia for sharing.  I've been lurking this month, enjoying
>> Adrienne's posts and others.  I just  wanted to add  that  the new
>> media
>> artist and designer Maurice Benayoun visited our Cornell Art
>> Department
>> this week where he shared with our students his open source website of
>> ideas and projects that for him were either unusable, not possible,
>> or too
>>  expensive on <the-dump.net> (google will translate the page from
>> French
>> to English).  He explains that the-dump is his open source sharing
>> space
>> where anyone can pick up one of his ideas freely and indeed many have
>> done.  The work was part of his PHD dissertation in Paris.  Right
>> now he
>> is spear heading the design of an open source website for artist's to
>> share their images both still and moving at <theartcollider.org>
>>
>> Renate
>>
>>> Wow - I love the concept that we are all changing and that each of us
>>> an ongoing prototype for the next generation of ourselves
>>>
>>> At the CAA session on Open Source (chaired by Patrick Lichty),
>>> Michael Mandiberg gave a presentation arguing for giving away Design
>>> ideas, for making practical design concepts  "Open Source," patent
>>> free ideas to be shared among the industrious.  In his talk he
>>> presented some Open Source Design ideas developed at Eyebeam.
>>>
>>> A member of the audience who identified herself as a graduate student
>>> in Fine Arts at the Chicago Art Institute asked the question about
>>> what it the equilivant of "Open Source Design" in the Fine Arts, and
>>> how could Fine Arts students establish a Fine Arts Open Source
>>> practice.   She left before I could respond with the thought that as
>>> Fine Arts faculty members in art schools and art departments we are
>>> always giving away our ideas, our sense of how art works, what it can
>>> do, or what it might be in a certain situation. The very act of
>>> engaging in a critique session is an "Open Source" exchange of ideas.
>>> When students leave the room after a crit, they have no obligation to
>>> cite their professors as the source of their ideas, they simply take
>>> them and go.
>>>
>>> Of course in an academic setting Ideas are not completely free,
>>> because students are paying tuition, and faculty members are being
>>> paid.  We have a contractual agreement to share ideas, to be (nearly)
>>> Open Source Fine Artists.
>>>
>>> If we are all prototypes, then as individuals outside of the academic
>>> world,  we can share our Ideas as artists, as thinkers, as critics
>>> without a contractual agreement.  But isn't that what we are doing
>>> already in spaces such as this one - in discussion lists, in artist
>>> meetings, even when we show work in progress to friends and
>>> colleagues?
>>>
>>> Now the question of second order prototyping as turning to others --
>>> not sure that I am ready for that!  It sort of reminds me of my
>>> teenage years going shopping for clothes with my mother, who somehow
>>> poured me into dresses and pulled on one corner or another to make
>>> them look like they fit, even when they remained uncomfortable.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cynthia
>>>
>>> Cynthia Beth Rubin
>>> http://CBRubin.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Julian Oliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> ..on Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 03:10:01PM -0000, Johannes Birringer
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Davin wrote:>> At one point in time, discrete objects were
>>>>>>> things that were considered prototypes that could be thrown into
>>>>>>> an existing system and tested. Increasingly, it seems like the
>>>>>>> prototypes are geared to test individual and collective
>>>>>>> consciousness.  In other words, maybe we are the  prototypes?
>>>>>>> Being tested so that we can be effectively processed, shrink-
>>>>>>> wrapped, labeled, bought and sold>>
>>>>
>>>> Hmm, This statement from Davin confused me also. I thought it was
>>>> fairly clear
>>>> that any act of learning - or any 'attempt', which all action is at
>>>> it's root -
>>>> simultaneously produces the self as a prototype, even if only for
>>>> the duration
>>>> of that act. The very notion of a prototype assumes a platonic and
>>>> eventuating
>>>> objecthood, a finished thing. When are people ever so singularly
>>>> resolved?
>>>>
>>>> Second order prototyping is the work of other people, especially
>>>> aquaintances,
>>>> marketeers and those that resource people.
>>>>
>>>> Beast,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Julian Oliver
>>>> home: New Zealand
>>>> based: Berlin, Germany
>>>> currently: Berlin, Germany
>>>> about: http://julianoliver.com
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>>
>> Renate Ferro
>> Visiting Assistant Professor
>> Department of Art
>> Cornell University, Tjaden Hall
>> Ithaca, NY  14853
>>
>> Email:   <rtf9 at cornell.edu>
>> Website:  http://www.renateferro.net
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Renate Ferro
Visiting Assistant Professor
Department of Art
Cornell University, Tjaden Hall
Ithaca, NY  14853

Email:   <rtf9 at cornell.edu>
Website:  http://www.renateferro.net


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Art Editor, diacritics
http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/dia/