[-empyre-] seeing yourself a prototype - the limits of open source

[Julian Oliver]

..on Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:07:24PM -0500, christopher sullivan wrote:
> definitions, I think we are not all talking about the same thing.
> so here are my worst case and  best case definitions of prototyping.

[..]
> 
> 
> what is your definition?
> 

(earlier)

Prototyping is any test of expectation

or:

	Prototyping is practicing real.

or:

	Prototyping is an attempt to reverse engineer the imagined.

We could go on forever while forgetting that prototyping itself escapes
definition. This is because it itself is the very process of definition, of
'defining'.

To recurse, your email was (expressly) a Prototype Definition. 

Cheers,

-- 
Julian Oliver
home: New Zealand
based: Berlin, Germany 
currently: Berlin, Germany
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> Quoting Julian Oliver <julian at julianoliver.com>:
> 
> > ..on Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 03:10:01PM -0000, Johannes Birringer wrote:
> > > >> Davin wrote:>> At one point in time, discrete objects were things that
> > were considered prototypes that could be thrown into an existing system and
> > tested. Increasingly, it seems like the prototypes are geared to test
> > individual and collective consciousness.  In other words, maybe we are the 
> > prototypes?  Being tested so that we can be effectively processed,
> > shrink-wrapped, labeled, bought and sold>>
> > 
> > Hmm, This statement from Davin confused me also. I thought it was fairly
> > clear
> > that any act of learning - or any 'attempt', which all action is at it's root
> > -
> > simultaneously produces the self as a prototype, even if only for the
> > duration
> > of that act. The very notion of a prototype assumes a platonic and
> > eventuating
> > objecthood, a finished thing. When are people ever so singularly resolved? 
> > 
> > Second order prototyping is the work of other people, especially
> > aquaintances,
> > marketeers and those that resource people.
> > 
> > Beast,
> > 
> > -- 
> > Julian Oliver
> > home: New Zealand
> > based: Berlin, Germany 
> > currently: Berlin, Germany
> > about: http://julianoliver.com
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> 
> Christopher Sullivan
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