[-empyre-] glitch device/divide

Thu Dec 8 21:06:50 EST 2011

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:06 PM, jon.satrom <jon at satrom.com> wrote:

>
> By no means is glitch.art comparable to a movement like Occupy, but there
> are interesting threads to tease out...
> After all, it took a few really large economic glitches to expose the
> corrupt system to folks.
>
>
These were not by any means glitches. That is what the Occupation has been
about. We know that these are not unruly/unexpected/unintentional flaws in
the system. It was no accident. It may be an exploit in the sense of
hypertrophic, asymmetric utilization of the existing financial trading
rules.

This is not to derail the discussion, but to encourage advocates to think
more clearly on what a glitch is supposed to be. A bug? The effect of
triggering a bug? Is exploiting a software flaw 'glitch' even if it doesn't
create cybersnazzy visuals or auditory effects? What if that software flaw
is a misconfiguration and not a coding or design error? Is a glitch still a
glitch if no one knows it happened? Are the mundane error messages in my
/var/log 'glitch'?

The truth is, the glitch art I have seen is so occluded and hermetic that
its impossible to generate a proper understanding of what glitch
practitioners consider to be glitch. Perhaps a form of getting political
would be to open glitch workflows and practice, explain the browser panics,
and do something beyond fetishizing the glitch (like, perhaps, explaining
it?).

On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:19:03 +0100, IR3ABF wrote:
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>> Hi Rosa
>>
>> thanks for your interesting reply,
>>
>> I remember in a conversation with John Satrom during glitch Amsterdam,
>> where I posed the same question about the supposedly lack of politics
>> in things glitch related, I offered the example of my personal and
>> dissented - because not sanctioned by the general assembly- action on
>> Occupy Amsterdam.
>>
>> (http://www.facebook.com/**media/set/set=a.**10150400659812355.360211.**
>> 732517354&type=1&l=ab83175229<http://www.facebook.com/media/set/set=a.10150400659812355.360211.732517354&type=1&l=ab83175229>
>> [44])
>>
>> I think politics comes creeping in when there is not a *shared*
>> safeguard in protecting some potentially promisseful developments in
>> perceiving our lived environment - with all its imperfections and
>> *bad* behaviours - from the gloomy and dark, slimy fingers of
>> *commodification*, resulting in the obvious *domestication* and the
>> positioning of it into the well established *fetishized* art world,
>> and where it will be just another vehicle in maintaining its - the art
>> world's - deadly grip.
>>
>> Just as you rightfully expressed its *freshness* is prone to
>> exploitation and possibly quickly gaining an impact which is able to
>> just stop its *own* fluidal development.
>>
>> So corresponding to the occupy movement, the lack of a recognizable
>> and outwardly directed and actively pronounced *political* point of
>> view, can easily result in a misunderstanding and a falsifying
>> conception of its underlying premisses
>>
>> Connecing glitch with art will do glitch not any good, and thereby is
>> loosing the possible break with an outdated, insufficient and most of
>> all, elitist art concept.
>>
>> In which part of society will glitch be of value except for a small
>> number of people sharing a common interest in playfully disrupting
>> technological achievements? And what are the benefits for the people
>> not being part of it?
>>
>> Will it develop into another 'ism', fed by institutionalized
>> theoreticians and popularized by its youtfullness and freshness or
>> will it function as a means to break the underlying world building
>> rules and do away with our preoccupation with societal and techno
>> oriented *hygiene*?
>>
>> Mcluhanistic naivety combined with a US dominated visual art
>> conception will in due time eradicate every possible trace of
>> authenticity, replacing it with its commodified merchandazible fetish
>> derivate.
>>
>> Andreas Maria Jacobs
>>
>> "A corrupt Society, produces corrupt Art"
>>
>> http://burgerwaanzin.nl [45] (anti-art)
>> http://nictoglobe.com [46] (art magzaine)
>>
>> Sent from my eXtended BodY
>>
>> On 4 dec. 2011, at 21:30, Rosa Menkman  wrote:
>>
>>  Andreas, thank you for bringing up the issues of politics and
>>> societal consequences. I think these are to definitely very
>>> important subjects concerning glitch (art) but also very big - just
>>> throwing them around makes me worried of them becoming empty
>>> concepts (this year we actually organized a panel on glitch politics
>>> and I really liked it but also felt it could do with some
>>> -preliminary- conclusions) I would like to try to get one step
>>> closer to that conversation now.
>>>
>>> For the last years and especially during the organizing of the
>>> festival and the writing of my little book on glitch theory, (which
>>> is downloadable from here [26]) I have been looking for ways to
>>> create or talk about glitch theory/practice-frameworks.
>>>
>>> glitch = break in a system
>>> glitch = a fingerprint of a technology
>>> But... what is glitch art?
>>>
>>> What other subjects are there to explore, or organize within these
>>> frameworks, and do I really want to set them apart or organize them?
>>> What are the dangers of writing these things out? Is it the end of
>>> the protocol? (no!)
>>>
>>> I feel that the problems of defining _glitch_, _glitch art_ (and
>>> possibly _GLI.TC/H)_ <http://GLI.TC/H%29_> and their roles within
>>> glitch art communities
>>> are complex. While glitch is mostly technologically defined, glitch
>>> art takes the _technological occurrence_ of a glitch to another,
>>> _more social _or_ metaphorical level._
>>> In GLI.TC/H the festival/gathering/conference we try to reflect on
>>> these problems (that also have to do with authority, hierarchy
>>> within organizing, etc). We try to create an open, fluid space for
>>> the communities that struggle or work within these perspectives and
>>> provide a meeting place for conversation about classic subjects
>>> surrounding these communities, like politics, media archeology and
>>> aesthetics. But I believe we also try to capture the 'fresher'
>>> conversations related to glitch art (glitch art and its
>>> practitioners are, for good and for bad, very prone to a freshness
>>> fetish).
>>> Last year the festival focussed on a very particular change within
>>> the glitch communities, namely the commodification and
>>> standardization of glitch; the domestication of certain glitch
>>> effects. There were many motivations for this, but a very specific
>>> one was the rise (and demise?) of datamoshing, on which I wrote a
>>> blogpost [27]a while back and on which the chapter "From Artifact
>>> to Commodity" of my book (as mentioned above) and the exhibition
>>> Filtering Failure [28] reflected.
>>> This year I feel there has been a general movement towards text,
>>> vernacular or language based glitch art. A good example for this
>>> shift was for instance Curt Cloningers GltchLnguistx [29] and the
>>> following presentation he did during the panel, to which Curt linked
>>> before [30] (00:16:30-00:46:00) + http://lab404.com/glitch11.pdf
>>> [31] , or the growing amount of largely text related glitch-facebook
>>> groups, the resurrection of Zalgo and works like Anthony Antonellis'
>>> Impulse 101 [32] and A Bill Millers Glitched Ascii Art, the
>>> Gridworks series [33].
>>> I wonder if this is a general trend in digital arts, or if this is
>>> something more specific to glitch art practices?
>>>
>>> I also wonder what politics (is there a difference between
>>> P/politics?) means, within the perspectives of glitch (art
>>> communities) - I know what Nick Briz would say: It is a fluid
>>> concept made by the communities. However, I am always looking for
>>> more specific definitions, shelves and frameworks so we can break
>>> them later and find new glitches.
>>> If we are afraid to define something beyond it being fluid - how can
>>> we still believe in a future for glitch?
>>> Warmly,
>>> Rosa
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>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:17 PM, IR3ABF wrote:
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>>>  do not need to be (irritated), it are the tidal waves of
>>>> internests ever undulating search for the renovation and
>>>> rebuilding of its own flawed fundamentals
>>>>
>>>> what I do miss are the politcal and societal consequences it needs
>>>> to expose, for now it is merely based on a *dirty* and *speedy*
>>>> aesthetics and lacking substance and contemplation, but its
>>>> alleged freshness and playfullness could eventually develop into
>>>> something more sustainable and less volatile
>>>>
>>>> for a previous FB discussion see:
>>>>
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>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/**pipermail/netbehaviour/**
>> 20110816/022380.html<http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/20110816/022380.html>
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>>> [22]
>>>>
>>>> Andreas Maria Jacobs
>>>>
>>>> http://nictoglobe.com [23]
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my eXtended BodY
>>>>
>>>>  2011/12/3 GLI.TC/H [18]
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>>>>>> Dear DNSBL,
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>>>>>> GLI.TC/H [3] was exe.cuted in Chicago US from: NOV 3 - 6;
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>>>>>> Modules included: lectures, workshops, performances,
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>>>>>> to reflect and absorb GLI.TC/H [4] as a whole and how it
>>>>>> interfaces, supports, and shares within/around the glitch.art
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>>>>>> Sincerely,
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>>>>>> GLI.TC/H/BOTS [11]
>>>>>> CEO OF YOUR BOTNET
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>>>>>> + jon.satrom
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>>>>>> GLI.TC/H/BOTS [12] Executives and Professionals
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>> Links:
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>> [1] http://gli.tc/H
>> [2] http://GLI.TC/H
>> [3] http://GLI.TC/H
>> [4] http://GLI.TC/H
>> [5] http://gli.tc/H
>> [6] http://gli.tc/h/monster/
>> [7] http://gli.tc/H/BABY/
>> [8] http://gli.tc/H
>> [9] http://gli.tc/H
>> [10] http://gli.tc/H
>> [11] http://gli.tc/H/BOTS
>> [12] http://gli.tc/H/BOTS
>> [13] http://gli.tc/H
>> [14] mailto:GLITCH at GLI.TC
>> [15] http://GLI.TC/H
>> [16] mailto:empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.**edu.au<empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>> [17] http://www.subtle.net/empyre
>> [18] http://GLI.TC/H
>> [19] mailto:glitch at gli.tc
>> [20] mailto:empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.**edu.au<empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>> [21] http://www.subtle.net/empyre
>> [22] http://www.netbehaviour.org/**pipermail/netbehaviour/**
>> 20110816/022380.html<http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/20110816/022380.html>
>> [23] http://nictoglobe.com/
>> [24] mailto:empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.**edu.au<empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>> [25] http://www.subtle.net/empyre
>> [26]
>>
>> http://networkcultures.org/**wpmu/portal/publications/**
>> network-notebooks/no-04-the-**glitch-momentum/<http://networkcultures.org/wpmu/portal/publications/network-notebooks/no-04-the-glitch-momentum/>
>> [27]
>>
>> http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/2009/07/from-enchanting-**
>> to-default-cultivation.html<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/2009/07/from-enchanting-to-default-cultivation.html>
>> [28] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/**17713740/Filtering%20Failure.**pdf<http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17713740/Filtering%20Failure.pdf>
>> [29] http://lab404.com/glitch/
>> [30] http://www.ustream.tv/**recorded/18328047<http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18328047>
>> [31] http://lab404.com/glitch11.pdf
>> [32]
>>
>> http://www.anthonyantonellis.**com/writing/item/45-impulse-**
>> 101-art-the-internet-and-**everything<http://www.anthonyantonellis.com/writing/item/45-impulse-101-art-the-internet-and-everything>
>> [33] http://master-list2000.com/**abillmiller/<http://master-list2000.com/abillmiller/>
>> [34] http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/>
>> [35] http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/>
>> [36] http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/>
>> [37] http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/>
>> [38] http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/>
>> [39] http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/>
>> [40] http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.**com/<http://rosa-menkman.blogspot.com/>
>> [41] http://GLI.TC/H
>> [42] mailto:empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.**edu.au<empyre at lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au>
>> [43] http://www.subtle.net/empyre
>> [44]
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>> http://www.facebook.com/media/**set/?set=a.10150400659812355.**
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>> [45] http://burgerwaanzin.nl
>> [46] http://nictoglobe.com
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