[-empyre-] the art of forgetting

Christiane Robbins cpr at mindspring.com
Mon Mar 14 05:52:21 EST 2011


Really .... a dystopian view .... relative to whom or what cultural  
context ?



> So is Marcuse, who seems out of fashion at the moment but
> offers a model of action that allows for a dystopian view.



On Mar 13, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Simon Biggs wrote:

> Certainly, in an art world where marketing is so much part of  
> practice then
> your suggestion that artists should seek to ensure we don't forget  
> them is
> the mantra. I'd rather not work that way...
>
> I am not from an underprivileged background nor live in an especially
> oppressive environment (although that is debateable) but  
> nevertheless I do
> think people (including artusts) are obliged to try and make a  
> difference.
> But that can come in many shapes and sizes. I agree a simplistic  
> approach is
> not desirable. One reason I'm not with Badiou. Deleuze is far more
> interesting. Somebody mentioned Nietzsche, which is interesting  
> territory in
> this respect. So is Marcuse, who seems out of fashion at the moment  
> but
> offers a model of action that allows for a dystopian view.
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 13/03/2011 14:01, "Julian Oliver" <julian at julianoliver.com> wrote:
>
>> ..on Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 02:10:27PM +1300, simon wrote:
>>> Simon Biggs wrote:
>>>
>>> "It's part of the role of artists to ensure we don't forget."
>>
>> Hmm, I don't think this is true really. Donning a role of social
>> responsibility,
>> whether that be for a moral project or cultural heritage, hasn't  
>> been widely
>> practiced by artists since the Englightenment. Unless you're from an
>> underprivileged background or oppressive political circumstance, it  
>> seems
>> assuming such a role in one's art is increasingly frowned upon,  
>> lacking
>> rigour,
>> within the broader machine of self-disillusionment that is  
>> contemporary art.
>>
>> Rather:
>>
>> "It's part of the role of artists to ensure we don't forget about  
>> them."
>>
>> Cheers,
>
>
> Simon Biggs
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