[-empyre-] the art of forgetting

[Simon Biggs]

Well ... transgressive. That has it's dystopian dimension.

Best

Simon


On 13/03/2011 18:52, "Christiane Robbins" <cpr at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Really .... a dystopian view .... relative to whom or what cultural
> context ?
> 
> 
> 
>> So is Marcuse, who seems out of fashion at the moment but
>> offers a model of action that allows for a dystopian view.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 13, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Simon Biggs wrote:
> 
>> Certainly, in an art world where marketing is so much part of
>> practice then
>> your suggestion that artists should seek to ensure we don't forget
>> them is
>> the mantra. I'd rather not work that way...
>> 
>> I am not from an underprivileged background nor live in an especially
>> oppressive environment (although that is debateable) but
>> nevertheless I do
>> think people (including artusts) are obliged to try and make a
>> difference.
>> But that can come in many shapes and sizes. I agree a simplistic
>> approach is
>> not desirable. One reason I'm not with Badiou. Deleuze is far more
>> interesting. Somebody mentioned Nietzsche, which is interesting
>> territory in
>> this respect. So is Marcuse, who seems out of fashion at the moment
>> but
>> offers a model of action that allows for a dystopian view.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> 
>> On 13/03/2011 14:01, "Julian Oliver" <julian at julianoliver.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> ..on Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 02:10:27PM +1300, simon wrote:
>>>> Simon Biggs wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> "It's part of the role of artists to ensure we don't forget."
>>> 
>>> Hmm, I don't think this is true really. Donning a role of social
>>> responsibility,
>>> whether that be for a moral project or cultural heritage, hasn't
>>> been widely
>>> practiced by artists since the Englightenment. Unless you're from an
>>> underprivileged background or oppressive political circumstance, it
>>> seems
>>> assuming such a role in one's art is increasingly frowned upon,
>>> lacking
>>> rigour,
>>> within the broader machine of self-disillusionment that is
>>> contemporary art.
>>> 
>>> Rather:
>>> 
>>> "It's part of the role of artists to ensure we don't forget about
>>> them."
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Simon Biggs
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>> 
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