[-empyre-] On (severe) Pain Part 3 (dialog between Sandy Baldwin and Alan Sondheim)

[Monika Weiss]

These are very beautiful summaries of your meditations--reinscriptions, thank you Alan and Sandy. 

Pain as socially visible and already historical from the point of view of others, yet unnamable and meaningless within ourselves. Loss of the ability to signify, to mean, is a shared attribute of pain and mourning. Pain as embodied union of mind and body, in their indiscernible embrace (when it hurts it hurts throughout) --- and mourning as an act, a response to the loss of meaning, to the loss of, breaking of, falling of a part of one self, the entire self breaking, so that it no longer is capable to comprehend itself.  

Could you expand on the "pain's relationship to the body as cosmology to the universe"....

Monika Weiss

On Oct 6, 2012, at 11:12 PM, Charles Baldwin wrote:

> Here's the final part of the dialog (in fact, the notes below are largely by Alan). Again, these emerge from the kernel/core/chora of the discussion of mourning and grief.  
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> 110812_004: Pain as separating inscription/history from the inertness of the body; what's read as history from the outside (and thereby entering the social), from the inside is unread/unreadable. The inside is pure substance.
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> 110812_005: Inscription carries, until burial, carries a specific relationship to the body until burial. Burial is a form of reinscription. A line on the body - how is this interpreted during life? during death?
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> 110812_012: Inscription => embodiment and maintenance; maintenance => retardation: what makes for example virtual particles last as long as they do? Retardation - slowing things down, copying, duplicating, a poetics of dispersion, holding-back. See the phenomenology of numbers: data-base, interpretation, intentionality, an immersive situation, memory. In doing mathematics, always dealing with temporal processes. In pain: everything drops away, definable and immersive situations cease to exist.
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> 110812_014: Splintering, splintered nails, leveraging of particles, striations, applicable to notions of binding, constriction, discomfort.
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> 110816_002: Pain of the signifiera: signifier as incision, disturbance, splits between the Pale and beyond the Pale. Pain beyond the Pale? The pain of death: horizon foreclosing its origin and the subject as well.
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> 110816_003: The work I do as obdurate, not grid or mapping, but flows that are not channelized, flows that are mute - relation to pain. The phenomenology of the embodiment of the signifier is also mute. What I do is planless, expands into available technology on a practical level, produces and reproduces that way.
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> 110816_006: My Textbook of Thinking: components of inscription: linkage, syntactical structure, inscription is an ordering of difference, impulse, representation-structure, legitimation structure, maintenance, stabilization mechanisms, positive/negative feedback, field of abjection. Excessive related to corrosion. Difference between fissure and inscription. Relationship of corrosion and scarcity to pain.
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> 110816_007: Phenomenology of eccentric space, Sarduy, de-centering the subject, tied to abjection.
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> 110816_008: Difference between fissure and inscription; pain tends towards fissure; if fissure is same and same, there's no geography, no topography, no topology; the result is the crack / wound, everywhere and nowhere.
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> 110818_001: Pain relates to the body as cosmology to the universe. (?)
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> 110819_001: Pain in relation to virtual worlds: in circumlocution of the subject who may remain impervious, the degree zero of phenomenology.
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> 110821_001: What happens when users exchange their avatars? Our histories, inventories, are no longer our own.
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