[-empyre-] whose "our systems" & window weather [gluggaveðri]

[Johannes Birringer]

dear all

listening to the great postings now coming, many questions arise;
and perhaps starting at the end, it seems Roger is questioning
John's essay on glass and the "window" effect. And the window effect was
not entirely clear to me in the first place; especially now when compared to
Sue's movement examples and her reference to Bodyweather,  which is a practice
outdoors that certainly is not screened off  - the merely seen but not felt rök (storm)? –
one might ask, John, how energy flows can effect change (in the energized body?) when
they are indeed dependent on "real" simulations and thus simulated/ersatz energy? -  or did I misunderstand your reference to
photography, film, and the digital? 

What I found really helpful was your statement that 
any discussion of the virtual ought not be limited to material ‘delivery’ mechanisms or mediatory (digital) devices. 

I will later, as a small way of responding to Alan's provocative post, try to write about two very recent experiences of "embodied" performance, one religious one  in the Serpentine Gallery during "512 Hours" (Marina Abramovic present)
and one abject one during a taxidermic performance involving a dead animal and a teddybear. 

More about devices and dispositifs later, Simon, 
and thanks Susan for your response to my comment on Telematic Dreaming, I found it quite
convincing how you described your particular attention and movement improvisation (in your gendered space)
with the visitors and their advances (or retreats) as you were trapped.

I wish you could say a little more about entrapment or, on the contrary, about
why your "approach to embodiment has shifted over the years from a preoccupation 
with the sense and kinaesthesia to a focus on affect and the somatic"  and how
we can understand that, how is affect different from sensory experiences and how do
intimate, sensorial practices differ from the somatic?

And Susan, re: your reference to the "urban"  and the manipulation of affect in our cities, I attach
the image they chose for the forthcoming annual dance congress in Germany.... (it's a bit dodgy, though)

regards
Johannes Birringer



[Roger Malina schreibt]

i must admit i find the emphasis on 'attenuation of energy flows"
problematically restrictive- so many of the technologies of virtual
presence involved amplification of energies that do not reach the body ( telephone) or
conversion of an energy that the body is incapable of detecting and
converting it to a form of energy that the body can perceive ( infra red vision)
in  my writings on 'intimate science' i emphasised that the whole
panoply of instruments give access to human perception all kinds of
forms of energy that the body was not evolved to detect- so one form of virtuality
embodiment is being able to be present in spaces that are present but
that the body is unable to perceive without amplification or translation devices




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