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[Murat Nemet-Nejat]

Hi Spela, thank you for your perceptive and wise (that is a word I haven't
used for a line time) comments on our endeavors here, that the activity
itself is a meditation, a clarification of purpose. The following sentence
touched me most: "That said, I also believe that only when working
with/growing/observing plants over a longer period of time does this alien
group of living beings begin to authentically displaces our perception of
them -- and, consequently, of ourselves."

First, that we can never transcend or get rid of our humanity; but we can
understand ourselves, our limitations (perhaps what is human) better. The
passage reminded me also of Socrates, someone who was very important in my
intellectual growth; but of whom I had not thought for many years. But just
recently I watched Rosselini's Italian TV production *Socrates*.

Also, I like a lot the way you pay attention to time, to the importance of
duration (something we talked about a lot discussing boredom) in both
observation--particularly of a radical other as plants--and
understandin--that understanding the other is finally an understanding of
oneself.

Ciao,
Murat

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:50 AM, nik gaffney <nik at fo.am> wrote:

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> On 07/06/15 02:09, Graham Teeple wrote:
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>> My mind has been spiralling into the human, interspecies, and cyborg
>> dimensions of these projects.
>>
>
> "Interacting with entities whose logic and communication patterns are not
> readily comprehensible to humans should be approached with care. As we move
> beyond a world dominated by information technology into an era in which the
> biological world is beginning to penetrate the 'technosphere', different
> modes of interaction may be required. We propose that parallel to the field
> of HCI - Human Computer Interaction, we should explore the field of HPI -
> Human Plant Interaction. HPI explores the nature of surfaces and processes
> required to facilitate reciprocal interaction between humans and plants.
> Historically, interaction between humans and plants has ranged from
> parasitic to collaborative. However, for HPI to become mutually beneficial,
> a symbiotic relationship may be most appropriate. Before a Human-Plant
> symbiosis becomes possible, we need to ask ourselves why, where and how can
> this two-way interface be realised? What cognitive and social biases need
> to be overcome? Can we develop a generalisable approach to interfacing with
> the entire plant kingdom, or do we require localised interactions between
> different species, ecotopes or alkaloids? How do we bridge the differences
> of time and place on each side of human-plant interfaces? And by
> rediscovering the value of humility, can humans learn how to become part of
> systems more complex, older and stranger than themselves?"
>
> http://lib.fo.am/groworld_hpi_ii
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