[-empyre-] visualization between art and anthropology

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Hi, Jerome Rothenberg's groundbreaking poetry anthology The Technicians of the Sacred that brings in anthropological elements to poetry, through translated texts of First Nation rituals where was written in close collaboration with his wife Diane who is a world reek own anthropologist.
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> On Jul 15, 2016, at 1:54 AM, denise robinson <drobinson_2000 at btinternet.com> wrote:
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> I am dipping into this conversation with a suggestion - although you quite possibly know of this:  'contemporary art and anthropology' published in 2006, Berg Oxford. 
> I think it was the first publication to deal with the issues you are discussing. eds Arnd Schneider and Christopher Wright.
> Denise Robinson
> contributor to this publication.
>> On 14 Jul 2016, at 19:19, fiamma montezemolo wrote:
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>> Thank you for your comments, Gaby.  I would say that for those of us who dwell between art and anthropology do not feel the question of "repatriation' is a pressing one. I try to travel in between and my images are formed through that milieu. I tend to work with graduate students involved in both fields, but regarding your anthropology students you could maybe introduce them to the fascinating dialogue that has been going  on between art and anthropology since the twenties onward; Mexico and Brazil are particularly exciting places for this dialogue. 
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>> Hope this helps!
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>> Fiamma
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>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 3:01 PM, VARGAS CETINA G ABRIELA <gabyvargasc at prodigy.net.mx> wrote:
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>>> Dear Fiamma and Christina, thanks for this very interesting conversation. 
>>> 
>>> Fiamma, I know some of your work as an anthropologist and I've seen pictures of your work as an artist. How do you see your work crossing over to anthropology beyond the study of Tijuana? You seem to be interested in anthropologists' reflection on their own images. That is good in itself; however, as an anthropologist I want to know: Do you think that your representational interventions have something we can 'translate' conceptually back into anthropology? And if so, what would that be? What can I teach my anthro students conceptually from your art work, according to you? I guess I am asking you to be both narcissus and echo here, from an anthropological para-site to your artwork, far away from the Mexico-U.S. border.
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>>> Thanks in advance,
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>>> Gaby
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>>> Gabriela Vargas-Cetina
>>> Anthropologist
>>> Autonomous University of Yucatan
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>>>> Thank you for your question Christina.
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>>>> Yes, I did work on the 'aftermaths' of the InSite project in the border between Mexico and the USA. As an artist and anthropologist - using an  inter-medial methodology - I was particularly interested in making an attempt to understand what is left after a biennial, a curatorial project, an artist leaves a scene of intervention. InSite has been a very important art initiative that lasted many years in the Tijuana-San Diego border. In 2005 they had their last intervention and moved later to Mexico City. In 2013-14 I made a video called Echo based on their archive and an ethnography. By revisiting the scenes of these curatorial and artistic interventions, “echo” emerged both as a concept and a practice that enabled a reassembling of these art works, their futures,  beyond their expected ruins and remains. 
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>>>> Each work/artist and afterlife/echo of those works  -after the artists completed them and left to focus on another work - raised different and enriching questions on social art, on ethics, on methods, on the people involved in the projects, on the city itself and its urban cycle, on the future of public sculpture, etc. The assemblage of archival images and current reverberations, of all sort of data visualization through video, text, voice over, drawings, interviews, of affects and representation has been a real challenge in this work, as you mention: especially in terms of methodology. 
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>>>> The result is that more questions were opened after the initial ones. The conclusion was inconclusive: Narcissus (all of us working, representing, intervening on the border: anthropologists, artists, curators, etc.) and Echo (the context, the artists, the collaborators, the public sculptures, the objects, etc.) are clearly part of the same scenario and they are both plural and problematic in their own way...
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>>>> In this sense, I am not sure mine was a 'feminist methodology', but maybe yes a 'feminist sensibility', or as a long literature that started with Adorno would define it: an 'unmethodical method', an undoing of categorization, indeed a sort of ‘border crossing’. 
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>>>> Best,
>>>> Fiamma
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